Everett True Thanks to Pitchfork, loving music now equates with stamp collecting. A hobby, everything to be neatly categorised and filed away. No disrespect to philatelists intended. Tues at 08:59
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Alastair Jackson I enjoy Pitchfork. I've encountered a ton of great music reading it. Tues at 09:10 ·
Gillian Gaar I collect stamps! Just ordered the Royal Mail ones of classic record covers... Tues at 09:11 ·
Jon Slade we need order Tues at 09:18 ·
Deniz Martinez Anybody with a blog who tags their posts does this to some degree (myself included)...it wouldn't be that bad if Pitchfork didn't post so much pretentious crap. You really have to sift through a lot of rocks to find the gems... Tues at 09:19 ·
Everett True Do you also grade your posts Deniz? Tues at 09:19 ·
Deniz Martinez LOL no, I don't even grade my children's homeschool work...grades are for eggs and meat, not music or children ;) Tues at 09:21 ·
Everett True Ah. I'm going to use that on Twitter, if you don't mind Tues at 09:29 ·
Deniz Martinez Haha getting quoted by Everett True...sweet! ;) Tues at 09:32 ·
Andrew Hitchcock ITs a pithy little epithet Tues at 18:05 ·
Gustaf Kjellvander down with pitchfork! Their horrendoes! Tues at 21:21 ·
Tel Sutton Pitchfork... where would the NME be without it.? Wed at 05:08 ·
Greg Neate just posted my first fb / pitchfork link. Have I arrived late to the party again? Wed at 06:47 ·
Deniz Martinez Yeah you missed this party...maybe try to start a Stereogum party instead? ;P Wed at 07:07 ·
Tel Sutton Have to say I probably wouldn't have heard what is, imo, the best album of the 00's (i refuse to use the word 'n*ughties), 'Circulatory System' (2001), without the exposure Pitchfork gave it. Let's not forget that whilst the British music press was at it's nadir, PF was way ahead of the pack. Being the current 'arbiter of taste' will have it's downsides too i.e. one day they'll f*ck up and people will flock to the next fad website, taking the advertisers with them. Wed at 07:57 ·
Deniz Martinez There's nothing wrong with popping into Pitchfork and seeing what they're plugging from day to day. The problem might be in accepting the notion that they are in fact THE "arbiter of taste"...same goes for Stereogum, NME, Drowned in Sound, take your pick...I read 'em all and a whole bunch more, but I just take what I want and leave the rest. I'd never let any one source by my arbiter of taste LOL...I'm my own arbiter of that!! ;) (PS there a a LOT of brilliant bands that seem to miss ALL of those folks' radars...even with all that combined reading I still thank goodness for the recommendations and word of mouth I get from friends...and the occasional accidental lucky stumbles while surfing through YouTube or LastFM or whatever LOL...) Wed at 08:16 ·
Tel Sutton "I'd ... See morenever let any one source by my arbiter of taste LOL...I'm my own arbiter of that!!"...it's the only way to be. I stopped reading NME soon after Conor McNiff took over. It was never the same after Swells left anyway. Wed at 08:57 ·
Deniz Martinez I still read NME...hard habit to break since I've been reading it for like 20 years LOL...but again, I always did and always will just pick and choose what's really worthwhile versus what's just hype for the sake of hype. Plus being an American lover of Brit music doesn't leave me with a whole lot of reading options LOL...though Drowned in Sound is useful too at least...nice to see Eugene + The Lizards on the homepage there today... =) Wed at 09:14 ·
Didier Becu All those great writers from the past...Simon Price, John Robb, David Stubbs and of course The Legend himself were sometimes wrong, maybe more than once but they all had one thing in common : they were passionate and they didn't treat music like maths...that's where it all went wrong : their new collegues take it far too much seriously, so seriously you don't give a damn what they're writing about... Accuse me of asslicking of anything you want, but without all these great people I would have missed a lot of music, and without that a lifestyle...they were my John Peel in written form. Nothing but respect. Wed at 21:13 ·
Everett True re: Pitchfork. (from Deniz Martinez) "I don't even grade my children's homeschool work...grades are for eggs and meat, not music or children" Tues at 09:36
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Natalie Shaw Yes. This. Exactly this. Tues at 09:36 ·
Deniz Martinez haha I thought you were gonna cut the bit about the homeschool stuff out and just quote the music bit so it doesn't veer off into an offtopic debate or anything...but cheers for the tag regardless! (^_^) Tues at 09:39 ·
Mike Wolf Yes, but while they limply propagate the onerous grading method, shouldn't we be looking at Christgau for starting it? I like music and eggs, not so much meat and children.
This post gets a B-, or a 7.2, whichever makes less sense. Tues at 09:39 ·
Deniz Martinez Mike's comment gets a B+/8.8 (a little bit decked off for the not liking children bit) Tues at 09:55 ·
Mike Wolf If they're quiet, polite and imaginative -- then I like kids. Being discerning gets a 100 A++. Tues at 10:00 ·
Deniz Martinez imaginative children are sometimes quiet, but sometimes loud from all that imagination...and politeness is in the eye of the beholder. ;) Tues at 10:02 ·
Erika Meyer that's why I wanted to go to school @ Evergreen. Yesterday at 04:19 ·
Deniz Martinez Evergreen, cool...I went to Hampshire for awhile, same concept... :) Yesterday at 04:23 ·
Erika Meyer "wanted" to go. ;) Yesterday at 09:18 ·
Deniz Martinez oh ok...kind of how I "wanted" to graduate ;) Yesterday at 16:55 ·
Everett True How Pitchfork Grades Albums. Peer pressure x similarity to Animal Collective - latest college grade + CD condition = mark (+ random decimal)
Dennis Holway Driscoll, Matt Steinke, Glen Dickson and 9 others like this.
Antonia Sellbach did you ever read that article in the onion where pitchfork decides to give all music that exists in the world precisely 6.8 points? http://www.theonion.com/content/news/pitchfork_gives_music_6_8 Today at 12:16 ·
Everett True gotta love The Onion Today at 13:18 ·
Nick Balfour Since Planet Sound's demise it's been my main source of info. Anyone got recommendations for a better reviews site? 7 hours ago ·
Everett True How Pitchfork Grades Albums. Peer pressure x similarity to Animal Collective - latest college grade + CD condition = mark (+ random decimal)
Deniz Martinez and Massimo Usai like this.
Gary Walker and don't forget rating the psychedelic fractal collage on the cover that all u.s. indie albums seem to have nowadays Today at 19:49 ·
Phil Eaglesham And a soupson of cardigan? Today at 20:03 ·
Massimo Usai you sir, you nailed it once again Today at 22:12 ·
Mike Wolf @Gary: you mean the incongruous beam of color-spectrum bursting forth from mountains, mouths, beaches, canyons, &c? That is the best clue to skip a record -- after steady research has shown the same dream big/achieve small m.o. present on each one. 12 hours ago ·
John Doran I'd like to award you 9.3 for observational skills. 9 hours ago ·
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ReplyDeleteEverett True
Thanks to Pitchfork, loving music now equates with stamp collecting. A hobby, everything to be neatly categorised and filed away. No disrespect to philatelists intended.
Tues at 08:59
Richard Fontenoy, Michael Alan Goldberg, Mark Headley and 3 others like this.
Alastair Jackson
I enjoy Pitchfork. I've encountered a ton of great music reading it.
Tues at 09:10 ·
Gillian Gaar
I collect stamps! Just ordered the Royal Mail ones of classic record covers...
Tues at 09:11 ·
Jon Slade
we need order
Tues at 09:18 ·
Deniz Martinez
Anybody with a blog who tags their posts does this to some degree (myself included)...it wouldn't be that bad if Pitchfork didn't post so much pretentious crap. You really have to sift through a lot of rocks to find the gems...
Tues at 09:19 ·
Everett True
Do you also grade your posts Deniz?
Tues at 09:19 ·
Deniz Martinez
LOL no, I don't even grade my children's homeschool work...grades are for eggs and meat, not music or children ;)
Tues at 09:21 ·
Everett True
Ah. I'm going to use that on Twitter, if you don't mind
Tues at 09:29 ·
Deniz Martinez
Haha getting quoted by Everett True...sweet! ;)
Tues at 09:32 ·
Andrew Hitchcock
ITs a pithy little epithet
Tues at 18:05 ·
Gustaf Kjellvander
down with pitchfork! Their horrendoes!
Tues at 21:21 ·
Tel Sutton
Pitchfork... where would the NME be without it.?
Wed at 05:08 ·
Greg Neate
just posted my first fb / pitchfork link. Have I arrived late to the party again?
Wed at 06:47 ·
Deniz Martinez
Yeah you missed this party...maybe try to start a Stereogum party instead? ;P
Wed at 07:07 ·
Tel Sutton
Have to say I probably wouldn't have heard what is, imo, the best album of the 00's (i refuse to use the word 'n*ughties), 'Circulatory System' (2001), without the exposure Pitchfork gave it. Let's not forget that whilst the British music press was at it's nadir, PF was way ahead of the pack. Being the current 'arbiter of taste' will have it's downsides too i.e. one day they'll f*ck up and people will flock to the next fad website, taking the advertisers with them.
Wed at 07:57 ·
Deniz Martinez
There's nothing wrong with popping into Pitchfork and seeing what they're plugging from day to day. The problem might be in accepting the notion that they are in fact THE "arbiter of taste"...same goes for Stereogum, NME, Drowned in Sound, take your pick...I read 'em all and a whole bunch more, but I just take what I want and leave the rest. I'd never let any one source by my arbiter of taste LOL...I'm my own arbiter of that!! ;)
(PS there a a LOT of brilliant bands that seem to miss ALL of those folks' radars...even with all that combined reading I still thank goodness for the recommendations and word of mouth I get from friends...and the occasional accidental lucky stumbles while surfing through YouTube or LastFM or whatever LOL...)
Wed at 08:16 ·
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ReplyDeleteTel Sutton
"I'd ... See morenever let any one source by my arbiter of taste LOL...I'm my own arbiter of that!!"...it's the only way to be. I stopped reading NME soon after Conor McNiff took over. It was never the same after Swells left anyway.
Wed at 08:57 ·
Deniz Martinez
I still read NME...hard habit to break since I've been reading it for like 20 years LOL...but again, I always did and always will just pick and choose what's really worthwhile versus what's just hype for the sake of hype. Plus being an American lover of Brit music doesn't leave me with a whole lot of reading options LOL...though Drowned in Sound is useful too at least...nice to see Eugene + The Lizards on the homepage there today... =)
Wed at 09:14 ·
Didier Becu
All those great writers from the past...Simon Price, John Robb, David Stubbs and of course The Legend himself were sometimes wrong, maybe more than once but they all had one thing in common : they were passionate and they didn't treat music like maths...that's where it all went wrong : their new collegues take it far too much seriously, so seriously you don't give a damn what they're writing about...
Accuse me of asslicking of anything you want, but without all these great people I would have missed a lot of music, and without that a lifestyle...they were my John Peel in written form. Nothing but respect.
Wed at 21:13 ·
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ReplyDeleteEverett True
re: Pitchfork. (from Deniz Martinez) "I don't even grade my children's homeschool work...grades are for eggs and meat, not music or children"
Tues at 09:36
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Natalie Shaw
Yes. This. Exactly this.
Tues at 09:36 ·
Deniz Martinez
haha I thought you were gonna cut the bit about the homeschool stuff out and just quote the music bit so it doesn't veer off into an offtopic debate or anything...but cheers for the tag regardless! (^_^)
Tues at 09:39 ·
Mike Wolf
Yes, but while they limply propagate the onerous grading method, shouldn't we be looking at Christgau for starting it? I like music and eggs, not so much meat and children.
This post gets a B-, or a 7.2, whichever makes less sense.
Tues at 09:39 ·
Deniz Martinez
Mike's comment gets a B+/8.8 (a little bit decked off for the not liking children bit)
Tues at 09:55 ·
Mike Wolf
If they're quiet, polite and imaginative -- then I like kids. Being discerning gets a 100 A++.
Tues at 10:00 ·
Deniz Martinez
imaginative children are sometimes quiet, but sometimes loud from all that imagination...and politeness is in the eye of the beholder. ;)
Tues at 10:02 ·
Erika Meyer
that's why I wanted to go to school @ Evergreen.
Yesterday at 04:19 ·
Deniz Martinez
Evergreen, cool...I went to Hampshire for awhile, same concept... :)
Yesterday at 04:23 ·
Erika Meyer
"wanted" to go. ;)
Yesterday at 09:18 ·
Deniz Martinez
oh ok...kind of how I "wanted" to graduate ;)
Yesterday at 16:55 ·
Everett True
ReplyDeleteQ) How many Pitchfork writers does it take to change a lightbulb? A) 4.2
Yesterday at 13:34
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William Michael Knapp
B) all of them because they are mostly in the dark.
Yesterday at 13:58 ·
Everett True
30, 1 to change it and 29 to claim they saw it go dead first
Yesterday at 14:01 ·
Lisa Siegel
har. did you make that up?
Yesterday at 15:02 ·
White Hotel
None. They are only really interested in the first lightbulb the room released.
Yesterday at 16:23 ·
Deniz Martinez
they don't change lightbulbs, as soon as one gets dim they just ditch the entire lamp and go find a new one
Yesterday at 16:54 ·
Andrew Hitchcock
wHATS PITCHFORK?
Yesterday at 18:13 ·
Siddharth Pratap
Is there a maths equation they teach at music criticism school, that these guys are using?
Yesterday at 18:36 ·
Siddharth Pratap
Oops .. Turns out they do, just read the 'Quantifying Criticism' post by you. Man, I wouldave never imagined.
Yesterday at 22:57 ·
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ReplyDeleteEverett True
Q) How many indie kids does it take to change a lightbulb? A) Why does it need to change?
Today at 11:11
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Everett True
ReplyDeleteHow Pitchfork Grades Albums. Peer pressure x similarity to Animal Collective - latest college grade + CD condition = mark (+ random decimal)
Dennis Holway Driscoll, Matt Steinke, Glen Dickson and 9 others like this.
Antonia Sellbach
did you ever read that article in the onion where pitchfork decides to give all music that exists in the world precisely 6.8 points? http://www.theonion.com/content/news/pitchfork_gives_music_6_8
Today at 12:16 ·
Everett True
gotta love The Onion
Today at 13:18 ·
Nick Balfour
Since Planet Sound's demise it's been my main source of info.
Anyone got recommendations for a better reviews site?
7 hours ago ·
Everett True
ReplyDeleteHow Pitchfork Grades Albums. Peer pressure x similarity to Animal Collective - latest college grade + CD condition = mark (+ random decimal)
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Gary Walker
and don't forget rating the psychedelic fractal collage on the cover that all u.s. indie albums seem to have nowadays
Today at 19:49 ·
Phil Eaglesham
And a soupson of cardigan?
Today at 20:03 ·
Massimo Usai
you sir, you nailed it once again
Today at 22:12 ·
Mike Wolf
@Gary: you mean the incongruous beam of color-spectrum bursting forth from mountains, mouths, beaches, canyons, &c? That is the best clue to skip a record -- after steady research has shown the same dream big/achieve small m.o. present on each one.
12 hours ago ·
John Doran
I'd like to award you 9.3 for observational skills.
9 hours ago ·